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Qnap: ssd’s for system pool or cache acceleration?

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Huge fan of your articles and vids here. Smile
I’ve just upgraded my Qnap TS-664 to 16Gb ram in preparation for switching to QuTS Hero when it becomes available.
My question is: with several of the official Qnap vid tutorials all saying to put the System pool on the ssd’s, I’m wondering if that’s best when I could maybe benefit more from putting the cache acceleration on the ssd’s instead?
My use case is very simple: single user access over SMB for video storage, running no apps on the nas at all… it’s just used as a dumb file server.
I’d welcome your opinion here.
Best regards,
Simon
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When comparing QTS Hero (the ZFS-based operating system used by QNAP) with traditional QTS systems on the SSD pool versus SSD cache, each approach has its pros and cons. Let’s break down the advantages and disadvantages of using ZFS on an SSD pool vs. SSD cache acceleration.

ZFS SSD Pool (System and Data)
In this scenario, SSDs are used for the main storage pool where both the system and data are stored.

Pros:
Data Integrity (ZFS Features):

ZFS is known for its advanced data integrity features. It uses checksums to ensure data is not corrupted, which is crucial for sensitive or important data storage.
If your data is on the SSD pool, it benefits from this protection.
Always-On Performance:

Since the SSD pool stores both the operating system and data, all file operations will benefit from SSD speeds. File transfers, random reads/writes, and metadata access are all faster compared to traditional HDDs.
Snapshots and Clones:

ZFS allows for efficient snapshots and cloning. These operations are almost instant on SSDs, making the pool ideal for environments where frequent snapshots are taken for backup or rollback purposes.
No Bottlenecks from HDD:

You bypass any speed limitations of mechanical HDDs entirely, which can be important for IOPS-heavy workloads or random access patterns.
Compression and Deduplication:

With ZFS, you can take advantage of inline compression (saves space by compressing data) and deduplication (avoids storing duplicate data). SSDs handle these tasks more efficiently than HDDs due to their faster random read/write capabilities.
Cons:
Cost:

Using SSDs as the main storage pool can be expensive, especially if you require large capacity for storing multimedia or backups.
Write Endurance:

SSDs have limited write cycles, and a ZFS pool that is constantly handling write operations (especially with deduplication and snapshots) can wear out SSDs faster than in a caching scenario.
Overkill for Basic Use:

For basic file-sharing tasks (e.g., streaming media), using SSDs for the entire pool may be unnecessary. HDDs in combination with SSD cache could provide a more cost-effective solution without a significant drop in perceived performance.
ZFS Resource Overhead:

ZFS requires more system RAM and CPU resources compared to traditional file systems, so running ZFS on SSDs might demand a beefier NAS to ensure smooth performance.
SSD Cache (Acceleration) on HDD Pool
In this scenario, SSDs are used only to accelerate an HDD-based pool via read and/or write caching.

Pros:
Cost-Effective:

You only need a relatively small amount of SSD space to accelerate a much larger HDD-based pool, making this a more budget-friendly option if your data storage requirements are high.
Boost for Frequent Files:

Frequently accessed files benefit from SSD speeds, while the bulk of the data is stored on slower but cheaper HDDs. This is especially useful for multimedia access, where a few files are frequently streamed or edited.
Longer SSD Lifespan:

Since the SSD is used as a cache and not for main storage, it will experience less wear compared to an SSD pool used for all operations.
Easy to Scale Storage:

You can use SSD cache to improve performance without sacrificing the lower cost-per-TB of traditional HDDs. This is a good middle ground when expanding your storage over time.
Cons:
Performance Not Consistent:

Only frequently used data is cached on SSDs. If the data you need is not cached, performance will revert to HDD speeds. This is particularly noticeable for random access operations and very large datasets.
Limited to Caching Benefits:

Unlike a full SSD pool, you won’t get SSD speeds for operations such as metadata access, snapshots, or initial reads and writes for files not yet cached.
Cache Misses:

If your workload involves accessing a lot of new or random data that hasn’t been cached, the SSD cache won’t provide much benefit. You’ll experience HDD performance during those "cache misses."
ZFS Features Less Useful:

With ZFS, some features like inline deduplication and snapshots won’t gain the same level of performance improvement since the HDD pool is still the main data storage. SSD cache can accelerate access, but it doesn’t provide the full benefits of ZFS on SSD storage.
Conclusion:
Go for SSD Pool if:

You need maximum performance all the time (for high IOPS workloads or random data access).
Data integrity, compression, and deduplication are critical for your use case.
You have the budget for a larger SSD pool.
Your use case includes many random file accesses, such as virtualization, large databases, or frequent snapshot use.
Go for SSD Cache if:

You’re working with large datasets (like video files) but only need frequent access to a smaller subset.
Your budget doesn’t allow for large SSD storage, but you still want to boost HDD performance.
You want to improve read/write performance for frequently used files without switching to an entirely SSD-based storage system.
For most users, especially home media streaming or light file-sharing, SSD cache offers the best balance of performance and cost. But if you're running high-demand applications or constantly working with snapshots and backups, an SSD pool may be worth the investment.
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